Criminal Background Checks


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New! MAY-6-05 10:36:27	Forum: Christian Singles Member Surveys RE: Criminal Background Checks Reply to Topic		RustyRN Male 31-40
	Enough with all the long posts on this topic which have, as of yet, failed to address the real issue at hand as it's not a matter of cost, inconvienence, or privacy. It's very simple... this is yet ANOTHER example of the federal government attempting the assumption of jurisdiction and control where it has no legal & constitional power, authority, or right to do so. THAT is what should make you angry and concerned over this issue. The Constitution CLEARLY limits the power of the federal government, and those limitations are routinely and blatently disregarded by the feds time and time again. The tragedy is that the American people tolerate it. ~Rusty

New! APR-19-05 16:15:33	Forum: Christian Singles Member Surveys RE: Criminal Background Checks Reply to Topic		Nannette Female 51-60
	I posted this on the onlinepersonalswatch.com website yesterday: Thanks, Glenn Glasner. I sent the below mail to the speaker address and posted your mail in our forum on this topic to encourage our members to also write: This message is in regard to: HB 1035 / SB 1768: Background Checks for Online Dating I oppose this legislation. I own ChristianSinglesDating.com. We keep a small membership of conservative Christian members. We don't require personal information on a member, for member privacy. We do encourage members to find out personal information on a person before meeting them in person, and even contacting their pastor and church. But we certainly don't ask for a member's social security number, and don't require they give their last name. We can't even force them to give their real name - they can easily create a bogus name. So we plug in some bogus name they have provided in a background check and come up with a squeeky clean person? This legislation is rife with possible fraud and errors. What if a valid person has the same name as a criminal? or visa versa? ANYONE out to defraud someone is certainly not going to submit a valid name or SSN. And our members simply are not required to pay to use our site, so how can those members be checked? Even names input for credit card submissions can be invalid or inaccurate. Some members may use the card of a friend or family member. How can we PROVE that the person we are checking is actually the person? We can't! This legislation makes the member think they are safe when they may NOT be. It provides a false sense of security which the bogus will only take advantage of. Wouldn't it be FAR BETTER to offer legislation that requires that background checks be offered for FREE? Just like the new legislation that allows people to receive a credit check at least once a year... http://ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/credit/freereports.htm ...how about allow a given person so many free background checks a year on someone else? Then that would help out the single people who find someone in a bar, or supermarket, or ball game, or church as well as meeting online. A person doesn't need a background check on every single person they meet on the internet, only on that special someone they want to start communicating with. Or at least pass legislation to make background checks more affordable so that folks can obtain them easily. The legislation I've seen requires phrases on the home page which are too specific. Each state also seems to require a different phrase. How can we post every single phrase on our home page from every state without filling up our home page with all these required phrases? We don't know what state a person is from when they hit our home page. The bill doesn't say this phrase or something "similar." And what about those sites that optionally offer background checks with profiles. Some profiles may be flagged that they have been checked. The required phrases don't allow for alternative measures such as optional checks. Even if these bills were passed, the require phrases don't cover all the possibilities - either we do offer them or we don't offer them... but nothing in regard to we optionally offer them (with profiles being clearly marked). The Florida bill states: (b) Disclose clearly and conspicuously, to all website visitors residing in this state, on the provider's homepage ... within the top one-third of the webpage, that the online dating service provider has not conducted criminal background checks under paragraph (a). The disclosure shall state the following: "WARNING: [NAME OF PROVIDER] HAS NOT CONDUCTED FELONY OR SEXUAL OFFENSE BACKGROUND CHECKS ON ITS MEMBERS." The proposed Texas bill required it say: "IMPORTANT NOTICE: WE HAVE NOT CONDUCTED CRIMINAL FELONY OR SEXUAL OFFENSE BACKGROUND CHECKS ON OUR COMMUNICATING MEMBERS." What if all 50 states eventually proposed such a bill and all required different phrases on the home page? There is nothing to indicate consolidating these phrases or an optional background check. The bill only allows for "we do or we don't." We don't know if the person is from Florida or any other state when they hit our home page. So how can we know which disclaimer to display without displaying all of them? I can see where a SECULAR website might have 11% of their members fail a criminal check. Those sites open themselves up for the riff-raff, scum of society by their blatant sexually based advertising. Our site, a Christian site, does not cater to those types of people. They don't use our site except for the rare case where someone wants to stir up trouble among Christians, and with our member reporting feature, we receive reports on them right away and they are removed. Many lump all dating sites into the same category as the popular secular sites that make millions. Not our site. We don't make millions. We conduct our site as a ministry to help those less fortunate. We make enough to support our family and make ends meet. We are still a high-quality website, offering a lot of services to our members, but we are not greedy. We can't afford the huge advertising budgets demanded now a days. This legislation might put us out of business, and these other sites don't cater to helping the less fortunate. Who would take up this category? ...[Ran out of room!]

New! APR-19-05 16:13:9	Forum: Christian Singles Member Surveys RE: Criminal Background Checks Reply to Topic		Nannette Female 51-60
	This was posted on the online personals watch website today: I sent these comments to the speaker address given by Glenn Glasner: I am opposed to this bill: HB 1035 / SB 1768: Background Checks for Online Dating However, I want to ask something... does your bill take into consideration the required criminal or background check? You can go to any website and there are background checks from a few dollars upwards to $300! If websites are required to do a $129 criminal check, they could not afford to offer their services. But if they are offering the $6.95 background check, that would assume that some really important information is being left off. For instance, the cheap background checks are performed on ONE state. What if the person is a felon in other states? The cost of a countrywide report is $29.95, much more than what most dating sites charge for membership fees. But even that is not thorough. Your bill is titled: Background checks... However, background checks I've seen offered seem to be more detailed than criminal checks. Isn't the bill offering a false sense of security by making the user feel there has been a thorough background check performed, when in fact the website likely took the cheapest route possible and may not even be checking the correct person? This bill isn't going to help anyone, but is instead going to confuse people and make them think a person is safe when they truly are not. Larry Thacker Here are examples of pricing on one site: BACKGROUND CHECKS Basic Background Check $19.95 Gold Background Check $49.95 Platinum Background Check $69.95 Centurion Background Check $99.95 Due Diligence Background Check $299.95 Child / Elderly Background Check $179.95 CRIMINAL RECORDS Statewide Criminal Database Record Search $8.95 Sex Offender / Predator Criminal Search $6.95 Statewide Department of Corrections Search $6.95 Nationwide Federal Prison Inmate Search $9.95 Nationwide Federal Records Criminal and Civil $19.95 Statewide Criminal Record Search $24.95 On-Site Countywide Criminal Record Search $29.95

New! APR-18-05 16:5:27	Forum: Christian Singles Member Surveys RE: Approval in Florida Reply to Topic		Nannette Female 51-60
	The Criminal Background Checks Bills have passed two committees in Florida: http://onlinepersonalswatch.typepad.com/news/2005/04/approval_of_tru.html#comments http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/loadDoc.aspx?FileName=_h1035__.doc&DocumentType=Bill&BillNumber=1035&Session=2005 Glenn Gasner writes: Everyone should email the Speaker of the House at: speaker@myfloridahouse.gov and give their opinion on this (make sure to reference HB 1035 / SB 1768: Background Checks for Online Dating). If you want to go the extra mile (I'm doing this right now) you can go through and individually email the representatives using a web form at: http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/legislators.aspx

New! APR-10-05 12:13:41	Forum: Christian Singles Member Surveys RE: Criminal Background Checks Reply to Topic		Submitted Anonymously
	This is getting into shakey territory. Because of where I work, my finger prints are filed on a national data base with the federal government. Drug testing is required for "sensitive positions", but was rejected on a random basis for all employees. We are in a society where people want some guarantees of safety -- but it's also at a cost of personal freedom. Background checks would necessarily raise the costs of this web site. Any one expecting back ground checks should also be willing to help pay for the bill. On a personal level, I would tell the individual I'm interested in I wanted to do a back ground check. If they had a problem with that, I would decide there might be something to be concerned about. But you also have to be aware that back ground checks show only what a person was "caught" doing. It doesn't indicate character or morality. And it doesn't let you know if the person has honestly repented of any wrong doing. Frankly, the issue of back ground checks alarms me. Do we really understand how much freedom we're losing in our need to feel safe?

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